The point I was trying to make is he posts after game to try drag attention and rub in face of those that post services. If people want to follow these people or give out their e-mail so be it. It is hard for me to believe they have that many ghosts to get that many views on their posts. About the line of 51 was not out their anymore today as it was moving up overnite. just don't want to see this bickering over people getting e-mails; even though I don't agree with it; it disrupts a good forum and i have seen other public forums have this happen and bickering doesn't seem to end